Genesis Annotated: Chapter 19

Chapter Overview

Some traveling angels show up to Sodom, and Lot annoys them into staying the night at his house. While there, an angry mob forms outside shouting for Lot to get the angels outside to do presumably wicked deeds with them. Lot refuses and, in a categorically insane move, offers his 2 virgin daughters instead. The mob refuses.

The angels make people blind and stay the night. In the morning, they tell Lot to get out of the city with his relatives. His relatives don’t want to skedaddle, so Lot drags his feet a bit, at which point the angels yoink him, his wife, and his daughters out of the city to safety. Lot negotiates for the safety of a small town, and goes to it. Based on the narrative flow, it sounds like Lot’s wife looks at Sodom at some point while they’re in this town and is turned to salt. Lot then goes to live in the mountains with his daughters, who promptly get annoyed at the lack of men and bang their dad instead.

Additional Thoughts

This chapter is often cited as punishing homosexuality. A careful reading of Ezekiel 16:49-50 shows the issue is more about the city not wanting to take care of the poor and needy with all their amazing wealth that they have. Ezekiel 16:50 merely mentions abominations of an unspecified variety, which makes me wonder when god ever told anyone what these were supposed to have been.

It’s very strange that Lot is shown to be someone worth saving. Presumably, his actions in offering his two, married-yet-still-virginal daughters to a mob would have been enough to prevent god from destroying the city had they accepted the offer. The way the chapter is written, it seems like this was an offer that could have been expected. Strangely, neither the angels, god, or Lot’s daughters bring up any complaint about Lot because of this.

This chapter also sets up 2 nations that are problematic later on, the Moabites and the Ammonites. Given the context of the chapter, this reads more like some propaganda to make them both be seen as tainted due to incest. Read this way, the story was likely written as an attempt to explain where the Moabites and Ammonites came from in a way that makes the “real” believer superior to both.

Chapter 19: Destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
AKA: I’m Bored, Let’s Do Dad
AKA: I’m Bored, I’ll Pretend To Be Drunk And Do My Daughters

  1. And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
  2. And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
  3. And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
  4. But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
  5. And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
  6. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
  7. And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
  8. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
  9. And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
  10. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
  11. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
  12. And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
  13. For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.
  14. And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.
  15. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
  16. And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
  17. And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
  18. And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
  19. Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
  20. Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.
  21. And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.
  22. Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
  23. The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
  24. Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;
  25. And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
  26. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
  27. And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:
  28. And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.
  29. And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
  30. And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
  31. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
  32. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
  33. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
  34. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
  35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
  36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
  37. And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
  38. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.
  1. Why are there some angels here? Given the context of the last chapter, god was going to be checking out Sodom to see if there were at least 10 people who were righteous.
  2. Apparently Lot realized these were angels and is doing everything in his power to curry favor with the god of genocide. I can’t imagine why anyone would do that.


  3. He annoys them so much that they finally cave and go to his house for the night. What a swell guy.


  4. That’s gotta be a lot of people.



  5. How many people saw these guys show up? Just how fast does word spread about new arrivals in town. Do all arrivals get this treatment?
  6. Facing them on his own apparently.

  7. Good advice, don’t do anything wicked to these guys.
  8. Instead, do whatever you would want to my daughters instead? What sort of idiot is this guy? This would be incredibly cruel to, and not to mention incredibly painful for, his daughters to have a mob do whatever they want to them. Why save him?
  9. This verse uses a somewhat hard to follow turn of phrase that shows up a lot in the bible. The “upon the man, even Lot” means that the man in question here is Lot.


  10. Presumably the Angels, not the men.


  11. You think the people outside would realize something strange was going on.


  12. How many are there? Are there at least 10? Counting Lot and his two daughters, that’s at least 3. We only need 7 more.

  13. Sounds like god had made up his mind and was just humoring AbramHam in chapter 18.

  14. Wait… he has sons in law, who married his daughters? The same daughters he was offering to the crowds? Shouldn’t they be angry about that happening?

  15. These angels determined, in a single night where they slept at Lot’s house, that he, his wife, and his daughters were the only ones who were righteous in the city?

  16. This continually changes back and forth between “men” and “angels” which makes this somewhat hard to follow. Presumably, the “men” here are the angels that stayed over at Lot’s place for a single evening to judge the city.
  17. Run away!




  18. Lot doesn’t seem willing to run though.

  19. Didn’t he spend most of his youth travelling through mountains and such? Why is he so worried about that now? Is it because, like AbramHam, he’s old?

  20. It’s such a small city, surely nothing bad can happen in a small city! We all know big cities are bad, but small cities are always upstanding!
  21. AKA: Plot demands that Lot live in a city, so the angels agree.


  22. Did they just name the city Zoar now? This implies that it might have had another name and they decided to call it Zoar.

  23. Journey to the <Cardinal direction here>

  24. I’m still not entirely sure why though. Our only claims to these guys being wicked was a single interaction.
  25. AKA: God murders things, part 2: Fire and brimstone boogaloo.

  26. I thought they were already in Zoar?

  27. Why though?


  28. Presumably he lives somewhat close to there. Why didn’t he get turned into a block of salt?

  29. This could have been the entire chapter up to this point. Why was everything else included?


  30. I thought he wanted to live in a city though and was afraid of the mountains?


  31. Why not? Presumably they’re younger and pretty, I’m sure they can seduce someone. This sounds like Lot made excuses after the fact to do his daughters.
  32. Just remember, keeping it in the family is a valuable tradition that we find in the bible.

  33. They must have got him REALLY drunk then. Presumably, she saw her father naked here… why is this ok when Noah’s nakedness was not?
  34. It worked so well the first time, so lemme get some of the action!




  35. This is almost an exact copy of verse 33.



  36. Did Lot never notice this later on in life? No suspicions about them getting pregnant when they live in the mountains now with no others around?
  37. Apparently plot demands we explain how some random tribe came to be so we can hate them and be better than them.
  38. And apparently plot demands we explain how this other tribe came to be as well.

Genesis Annotated: Chapter 18

Chapter Overview

One day while AbramHam is just chilling, god shows up and tells him it’s time to have a child. God then accuses Sarah of laughing (even though it seems like she made absolutely no noise whatsoever) and reiterates she’ll have a son. AbramHam goes wandering with god while god tells him of his plans to destroy Sodom. AbramHam decides to dicker with god to convince god that if there are even 10 righteous people there, the city will be saved.

Additional Thoughts

Why does god even bother going through the haggling process if he’s omniscient? He should already know how many people are “righteous” in the city. AKA: 1, Lot. That means that if he already knows how many there are, he’s agreeing to something that he knows will never happen, which amounts to just yanking AbramHam’s chain and making him feel like he’s accomplishing something.

Chapter 18: God Consults AbramHam Consulting Co.

  1. And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
  2. And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
  3. And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
  4. Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:
  5. And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.
  6. And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.
  7. And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.
  8. And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
  9. And they said unto him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
  10. And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him.
  11. Now Abraham and Sarah were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
  12. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?
  13. And the Lord said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?
  14. Is any thing too hard for the Lord? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.
  15. Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid. And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.
  16. And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way.
  17. And the Lord said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;
  18. Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
  19. For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment; that the Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
  20. And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
  21. I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
  22. And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.
  23. And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
  24. Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
  25. That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
  26. And the Lord said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
  27. And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:
  28. Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
  29. And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.
  30. And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.
  31. And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake.
  32. And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.
  33. And the Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

  1. I presume we’re talking about AbramHam here.

  2. I thought this was supposed to be god, not some random men? Are there 4 (god + 3 men) or 3 men total?


  3. Sounds like giving things to men walking by is looked upon pretty well.

  4. He’s acting like a decent host at least. Maybe that’ll keep him from having plagues tossed at him like the Pharaoh.
  5. He’s really laying into this heavily. I wonder if they tell him to get on with it in order to stop additional bowing and scraping (or anything else to that effect)

  6. Sounds like there’s a total of three people he’s bringing food to. Is god one of them them?

  7. He certainly doesn’t mess around about using his cattle for food if the situation demands.
  8. Did he cook that calf at all?



  9. Again… not omniscient

  10. So he’s just here for a quick snack and a visit this time?


  11. AKA: They gave up on trying to fulfill Genesis 1:28. And Genesis 9:1.

  12. She finds the idea of two old people who don’t get it on anymore having a child hard to imagine. I can’t imagine why.
  13. No, she didn’t say that. See the previous verse for what she said.

  14. Finding alternatives to destroying the world was certainly too hard. And so was providing a text that has any reason to believe it, apparently.
  15. If she made no noise, and was merely amused by the idea, did she really laugh?

  16. These fellows leave and AbramHam decides to go with them for a while?

  17. I think this is the first time he consults with a human on what he should do?
  18. Well… technically Abraham does not become a great and mighty nation. His kids end up forming one.
  19. A bit odd to speak about the guy in front of you as though he’s not here. Almost sounds like he’s musing out loud.



  20. But why? What things have they done? Has god given any commands other than get laid and don’t kill people?
  21. At least he’s checking things out and talking to people before jumping straight to the genociding business he’s so good at…
  22. Bye angel dudes.


  23. Thus begins the long haggling process. Why this is done at all is weird as god, who knows all, would know how many are there.
  24. Seems reasonable. It also seems like a powerful god would be able to find a way to get around killing the righteous with the unrighteous.
  25. This is a surprisingly reasonable argument. “You’re the final judge of everything, so shouldn’t you make sure you’re doing everything in a just manner?”

  26. What about if there were 50 righteous on the face o f the planet before you flooded it?
  27. AbramHam is quite self deprecating here. Talking down a genocidal god must be pretty terrifying.
  28. This is starting to sound like another argument I’ve heard. If you add grains of sand together, one at a time, when does it become a pile?
  29. Where was this willingness to overlook evil for righteousness’s sake back when he killed off literally everything?

  30. This is starting to make me wonder if there were several works that were grouped into one here. One where he stated 50, another 45, another 20, and another 10.
  31. If this logic is to be followed, then eventually you’d get down to keeping the city that is “wicked” somehow just because righteous people live in the world.
  32. Seems like AbramHam was able to make a compelling enough case to talk god down from a local and specific murder of thousands.
  33. Given that god is allegedly omniscient, wouldn’t he already know that Lot is the only righteous guy in the city?

Genesis Annotated: Chapter 17

Chapter Overview

God shows up yet again and decides it’s time to introduce another stipulation in the agreement that Abram has with him, circumcision! In addition to mandating self mutilation of all male genitalia, god also decides that Abram’s and Sarai’s name are SOOOO last century, and renames them to Abraham and Sarah without any consultation whatsoever.

Like all good tales, this one ends with AbramHam following through on god’s orders to circumcise everyone. And, of course, like all good tales, follows up with a good repetition of the ending.

Additional Thoughts

I’ve often wondered WHY circumcision is a thing. The only potential benefit I’ve found that seems reasonable is a reduction in STI’s being transmitted. Not having a foreskin that could trap things under it seems like an advantage in that department.

Forcing something like circumcision of every male brought into the household seems like a pretty hard thing to do. What are you going to do, remember to check every time anyone new joins the household?

Chapter 17: Circumcise All the Things!

  1. And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
  2. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
  3. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
  4. As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
  5. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
  6. And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
  7. And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
  8. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
  9. And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
  10. This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
  11. And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
  12. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
  13. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
  14. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
  15. And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be.
  16. And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.
  17. Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?
  18. And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
  19. And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
  20. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
  21. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
  22. And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.
  23. And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham’s house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him.
  24. And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
  25. And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
  26. In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son.
  27. And all the men of his house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger, were circumcised with him.

  1. The demands of perfection from this old dude seem pretty demanding. AbramHam’s already messed up quite a bit, why should he stop now?
  2. This almost sounds like god is about to repeat the covenant yet again. This is the third or fourth time?
  3. Sounds like a reasonable response when god keeps repeating himself.
  4. This is sounding pretty familiar


  5. Not sure why this is. Is it related to Canaan being owned by Ham? Abram + Ham = Abraham?
  6. If we’re to believe this, the guy is 99 years old, has 1 child, and is probably getting quite infirm.
  7. Yep, this is pretty much doing the same thing as every other time god shows up to talk about the covenant.


  8. Ham has nothing to say in all of this? Does god honor the curse that Noah laid on Ham then? Does god support seeing someone lying naked and getting help for them as a valid reason to curse them?
  9. AKA: You do as I say and nothing gets broken

  10. Why does god want fleshy bits cut off? What does that accomplish? Does god really need a reminder of who his people are? Is he not omnipotent? (probably not)
  11. But why?


  12. That sounds like it would be really painful. Any women in the area were probably grateful for a few weeks reprieve while the men’s stickers settled down.

  13. AKA: Even if these people don’t follow your faith, you better do the same to them when you buy slaves. Never mind that they probably won’t be too happy about this.
  14. Presumably, people have failed to have been circumcised in the past. Does circumcising in a later generation bring this covenant back?
  15. Why this name change? This is reminding me of Japan with their name changes during the sengoku jidai era.
  16. So now it’s time to let Sarai…. er… Sarah know that she will be having children, eh?


  17. You’re 99.. you have a long ways off, right?




  18. Is he having regrets about having a son already?
  19. Why not let the father and mother choose the name for once? Seems like god is playing Aphrodite with the OTPs and naming here.

  20. Wasn’t he supposed to be fighting everything around him because he’s so unruly?


  21. Got it, Isaac should be born when AbramHam is 91 years old.

  22. Just imagine god running away shouting “PEACE!”
  23. Well… the god told us we need to perform self mutilation to keep in his favor, so time to perform that mutilation!



  24. Unless this took place long after, I’m not sure why they repeat his age here.


    At least he’d heal somewhat quickly.


  25. The department of redundancy department called…
  26. … They want their redundancy back.